Nexuiz Ninjaz - Practicing the Ninja Art of Nexuiz

basically, i'm done playing until it's out and i make up my mind whether i want to play it anymore with all the changes the devs have introduced.

i'm losing my nex reload which is so well known everyone should just do it, i'm losing my rocket boost which is so well known everyone should just do it & prepare to defend against it, i'm listening to little fucktards play voices over and over on galt's, the new felicia model looks godawful, and my general movement just feels *wrong*. i step from galt's over to doku's (2.3) and i feel like i just took off one of those 80lb weight vests. i don't know if there's a incompatibility from the 2.3client to the 2.3svn server on galt's or my being under windows xp is a consideration, or what honestly, so i'm waiting for official to make up my mind. i just hope something is causing my experience to be fucked up and will be fixed, or maybe i just have a issue with galt's server (latency wise.) if 2.4 equals the conditions presented exactly as they are on galt's universally, i'm ceasing to bitch about it and i'm just not playing it. it's not worth my time to be deep in a game i enjoy so significantly less (especially when i feel they had it *so* right before they started messing around.)

I agree. I'm going to setup a post on the AT forum.

EDIT: http://www.alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic...2294#32294
I do like the new user interface, but all I hate about it is the refire and RL detonation.

This is cheating.

I fought the good fight to keep it in... it came to a compromise on 0.2. It's not ~that~ big of a deal, it's a new challenge.

A least she sticks out like a sore thumb, easy target.

Yes, everything feels clumsier at Galt's Gulch, as opposed to Doku's server. The game feels less quick, it's like rocketboosting through water instead of air. Whatever happens, I hope it's still enabled on the Batcave.

I had the same reaction when the change was introduced few months ago, because I needed weeks to master the nex reload, and was one of my few skills. Then I couldn't hit anything, my timing was bad, I was angry, but after few weeks my aim came back.
And finally I was happy with the change, you can now switch immediately to another weapon to frag the guy, it's more creative and challenging, like the nex+mg or nex+mortar combo, it make me a better player. And that prevent experimented player to use advanced binds that beginner can't know : fair enough for me.

nothing definitive by default yet, it's the server admin who set detonation delay. Btw the devs are asking your opinion here : http://www.alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2730
fell free to post a constructive answer, don't let the others decide for you.

The voice will be removed in 2.4 very soon (tomorrow) if nobody can bring better one. People play with it only because it's new, there isn't this kind of problem on European servers anymore. And if the problem persist, I'm sure the devs will be happy to include flood protection. (not coded yet because the voice are likely to be rremoved in the final version).

It's a custom model not included in the official distribution, the fault come from the server admin ;)

There was few modifications in the netcode in order to fix the speedhack used by few cheaters in-game. So even if 2.3 clients stay compatible, it won't be 100% compatible and can cause lag. Updating to 2.4 should fix the problem (release in few days...).

really, the slowness & awkwardness of moving on galt's under svn is what bugs me. if official 2.4 server & client fixes that, i'm still in regardless of other changes. i should mention i don't like the new nex beam either, i think it's poor for tracing back sniper locations. and if we're getting newbie friendly, it gives poor feedback on how far you missed by.

re: nex reload, i don't see how it's cheating. it's funny how rocketboosting isn't but nexreload is; the community (or at least the devs) consider them anomalies and unbalancing. i'm sure i could make a sports metaphor, but my point is simple, either they both are or they both aren't, one can't be while the other is. the devs could've called them both features and put them in the readme/on the site and people would've used them without hesitation. as i've discussed w/ lixivial a couple times, i considered the nex glitch akin to the quick reload from gears of war. there is a benefiit:risk to it where sometimes your timing is off and you're trying to jump w/ nex or snipe with laser, and it's a considerable effort constantly manually switching the two guns. i know i didn't sway anyone with that, but the point is valid had it been advertised as a feature it would've been accepted. (yes, i understand it's a bug, but perception = reality) i know at this point it's gone gone gone, so i'm not bitching about that. movement clears up i'm still in, my nex will suffer a little for awhile but it's not too bad.

i really hope i didn't insult felicia's model maker. i mean it's fine as a model, but it looks *bad* in game.

Well, doing anything for a faster reload time is an obvious cheat, especially writing a script to assist you in exploiting this. Anyone can figure out how to do this with ease, you push a button and MAGIC.

Rocket flying is a skill. There are plenty of rocket flyers that still blow themselves up. You can't blow yourself up with a nex.

With the rockets okay maybe... but why would the reload hack is just that, a hack. They've set reload times for a reason. Why would they want to pronounce this as a feature?

God I know, I hate when cheating becomes a hassle. The work you have to do to get off 3 shots in the time it takes me to take one. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO CHEAT WTF?!#%!

Nope, read my explanation above.


inficio, you're a really strong player. You have good strategy, you're aware of your surroundings and you do what you can to help the team. I was disappointed to find out you were using this hack. When games get to easy they get boring, rise up to the challenge.

a hack (to me, anyway) is an external modification to the game code, so nex reload clearly isn't one. it's merely an exploit. you're using the code as written to do something unintended. the devs obviously didn't intend the rocketboosting, so they become alike animals. i believe it takes skill to do the nex glitch (as i use no scripts, just a laser button and a nex button,) just as i do it takes skill to rocketboost. this game is never easy, not with mgs that can kill you before you can close or shotguns that can ruin you in a 3 round burst. i believe the good players do what they can to be good, including everything allowed to them. i will use every glitch i can to be as good as i can because i know there are always going to be people better than me and it will take everything i have to try to equalize the playing field. for the people worse than me i would expect them to do everything (within the game) to beat me. to limit myself to using one less glitch cause it's more... what, moral? is ridiculous.

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

I agree with your last post, Inficio. It's fine for people to have their own code of honor that says they can't use certain weapons or tactics, but they shouldn't impose that code on other players. I say do all you can to win; the rules programmed into the game should be sufficient.

I'm also disappointed to hear that they are removing the rocket boost--it's only like a more powerful laser jump, so it doesn't seem like a cheat to me.

As to the slowdowns, I'm hoping that is due to bugs. Dave and Galt had a conversation the other evening about packet losses with the svn server; maybe that is the major problem.

Oh, and Felicia... seems to be skillfully rendered, but I agree with you in that regard as well. I'm just hoping these things are temporary.

--Ben

Incorrect, you can still jump off the ground with the rocket very easily under the 0.2 rule. However, you cannot do a double, triple or quadrupal laser jump (in air) like you can with the (old) rocket.[/quote]

As Ronan stated, this is up to the server admin whether she stays or goes.